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Cool! I'm excited to try it out.

As for the GC -- how did you do those tests + comparison? Were there tools you two used?

I'd like to do that test on my own machine!
You just need the same Firefox profile(which include all your history, addons etc), and also same Windows, then install Memchaser.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/memchaser/

For testing, I think opening some website that having heavy JS(Gmail is a good choose, YouTube too), or just opening many same website/tabs that will increase the memory, when it increased to similar amount of Memory(at least 500MB), click on Memchaser(you may need to click the hamburger menu-customize, and put it on the addon bar etc.), click "Reduce Memory".
It will showing GC:XX.X ms, which is mostly happen when you are closing heavy JS tabs.

Then just browsing normally(like me typing now ;)),after a few seconds, it should be showing iGC:XX.X ms, and this is mostly you wanna care about. :)

If you are interesting about lower Memory usage will getting what result, just open the Firefox, then click on "Reduce Memory", and see how much the GC time is.
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And ya, by switching to Windows 8+(If you are using Intel CPU), you should seeing some performance increase too. :)
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You are welcome. :)

And to minimize the bad effect of higher memory usage which is increased GC time, you can overclock your CPU and RAM.

I has compared a bit with the other guy, my little Laptop i5-3210m used 100-180ms for GC, but with the nearly same amount of memory usage, his Desktop i7-3960x just used 10-30ms for GC, which only lost 2 Frame(60FPS, 1 frame is 16.67ms) for GC.

And if only iGC happen most of the time, then he is nearly will not notice the stutter.
(iGC, by making GC to part, and running it difference time, the GC total time increased, but each time the browser freeze will be reduced)
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And ya, Ad muncher 5 will be free, so it is a good choose to replace Adblock Plus which increase the memory usage.
But I don't tried yet(as they are preparing the server side to accept more people connecting, or human DDoS ;D), so I am not sure how it is. :)

http://www.murrayhurps.com/blog/ad-muncher-announcement
http://www.murrayhurps.com/blog/ad-muncher-history


Cool! I'm excited to try it out.

As for the GC -- how did you do those tests + comparison? Were there tools you two used?

I'd like to do that test on my own machine!
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Yup, sometimes we forgot there is some antivirus can causing issues. ;D
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BugTrack / Re: Win 8.1update1x64 process lasso window/tray icon crashes/vanishes
« Last post by Oxides on June 26, 2014, 08:10:32 PM »
Just an update:

About a few days after the problem went away it returned and stayed until i finally found the cuplrit, Bitdefender.
The second i removed it and switched to Kaspersky internet security the processlassowindow crash went away, and has been away for like 2 weeks.

I was just ignoring it for weeks.  With the auto-restart of lasso it was merely a few seconds of annoyance.  Then i saw postings about bitdefender causing a similar issue with other programs so i figured i would try switching av.

edit: HA! I see in https://bitsum.com/forum/index.php/topic,3858.0.html you guys figured out already it was bitdefender.
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You are welcome. :)

And to minimize the bad effect of higher memory usage which is increased GC time, you can overclock your CPU and RAM.

I has compared a bit with the other guy, my little Laptop i5-3210m used 100-180ms for GC, but with the nearly same amount of memory usage, his Desktop i7-3960x just used 10-30ms for GC, which only lost 2 Frame(60FPS, 1 frame is 16.67ms) for GC.

And if only iGC happen most of the time, then he is nearly will not notice the stutter.
(iGC, by making GC to part, and running it difference time, the GC total time increased, but each time the browser freeze will be reduced)
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And ya, Ad muncher 5 will be free, so it is a good choose to replace Adblock Plus which increase the memory usage.
But I don't tried yet(as they are preparing the server side to accept more people connecting, or human DDoS ;D), so I am not sure how it is. :)

http://www.murrayhurps.com/blog/ad-muncher-announcement
http://www.murrayhurps.com/blog/ad-muncher-history
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Thanks a lot! Very helpful information, and I appreciate your sharing it. Good to know -- I guess I'll stick with browser restarts for now, then :)
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Nope, this is just only works for Ghost Windows that need to GC a few times to remove it. ;)
http://jlebar.com/2012/5/30/A_ghost_story.html
But yes, normally Ghost Windows are not removable via GC, you need to file a bug to Bugzilla, then find out how it happen, and fix it.

So, it is just a addons that provide a shortcut to access about:memory to use Firefox own ways to force GC and CC, Firefox will run GC and CC per few second, if you are opening and closing page, or run JS/HTML5. :)
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Anyways, if you want Firefox can nearly return to the level of memory usage after a browser restart, I think the only ways is speed up the process of coding compacting GC and the other thing that it need to start working.
The issues is GC fragmentation or heap fragmentation, so I think compacting GC will helps here, but we don't know the result if it is not tested yet. ;)

And here is some info about it.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2663292/how-does-heap-compaction-work-quickly

You can just read from this line, the image and words has a good information about why after GC, the memory will not drop back to the level that just start up Firefox.
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Fragmentation of the heap is a common problem faced by C and C++ applications and it happens under certain allocation patterns that sometimes are outside the developer control. For example, consider the following allocation pattern:

http://www.mono-project.com/Generational_GC

And here is the info about memory usage and performance.
https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2012/02/08/the-benefits-of-reducing-memory-consumption-2/
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Gotcha, thanks for the info.

What about this addon -- is it possible it could successfully mimic a browser restart?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/freememory/
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Process Lasso / Re: History Shows Despite Being Unchecked
« Last post by edkiefer on June 25, 2014, 06:32:41 AM »
Yes, It is known bug with last version , thanks for report anyway .

https://bitsum.com/forum/index.php/topic,3890.0.html
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Process Lasso / History Shows Despite Being Unchecked
« Last post by Neptune on June 25, 2014, 05:27:57 AM »
Not a big problem but since the last update, history always shows despite being unchecked in options & all history in that subcategory being unchecked also - I've tried checking (ticking?) & unchecking all items to no avail, as I said not a big issue, thanks for a great program..  Paul

Running Process Lasso Pro 64 (6.8.0.4)
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